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Cosplay’s Color Problem: Blackface Has No Place In Cosplay

Cosplay’s Color Problem: Blackface has No Place In The Cosplay Community

By: Miss Momo

Blackface has no place in the Cosplay community.  Look cosplay is a fun hobby, loved by many nerds and geeks alike. Cosplay requires prop making skills, sewing skills, posing skills, and a whole lot of creativity!  However, there’s been a recent disturbing trend among mainly white cosplayer costumes pertaining to the “accuracy” of their cosplay. What kind of cosplay can shake the geek world up so much and cause cosplayers to delete all social media and retreat into obscurity until the storm blows over?

Blackface

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The cosplay community has seen a surge of cosplayers who don brown makeup in order to darken their skin color to be more like the characters whom they’re trying to portray. However, a lot of these cosplayers are met with backlash for doing this makeup. With some even resorting to deleting all social media accounts because of the backlash. The first black face cosplay I remember seeing is one of the German cosplayer who posted a makeup test of blackface Michonne from the walking dead. The cosplayer’s blackface costume makeup not only featured the darkened skin (black face), but also a prosthetic nose to create the illusion that she had black features.

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The second to gain lots of attention was the ridiculous Steven Universe Garnet cosplay by the cosplayer, which featured the iconic Cartoon Network show character with painted own brown skin, never mind the fact that in canon, Garnet’s skin is well; garnet and not brown at all, though she is coded as black throughout the show.

 

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(c) Kou

What’s the big deal with painting your skin for a character? As a black woman, I have a very specific and not a very good opinion on painting your skin darker, or yellow for that matter for the purpose of “accuracy”. Blackface history is painful, especially in America. Blackface began as a show in which white people would paint their skin with black paint to act as a black person in a play, usually for comedic purposes (usually with characters such as the “mammy”, “Pickaninny”, and other black stereotypes.) and even though that is in the past, it still holds all of those painful connotations for me. I don’t want to go through the whole history of black face or this will turn into a novel. If you want more information about black face, I suggest visiting these links: black-face, The Grio, History of Minstrelsy 

When I see pictures of white cosplayers who paint their skin darker for “accuracy” of a costume, I remember all of what I was taught as a black woman growing up, seeing hatred for my race. I see the way my race is persecuted. Deemed less than dogs, as comedic relief, as idiots or clowns. I feel this person most likely doesn’t respect black people as a whole because what it shows when they coat their face in that brown makeup is that they don’t deem us worthy of respect. Like my race is a costume are just a costume.

OMG! THAT’S REACHING!” Well, it might be for some, but if that doesn’t explain it well enough let me explain it this way: as a black woman, who has to be brown for everyday of my life, who has to face the stigma that comes with my skin which includes: being followed around stores, being told you can’t afford something just because you’re black (Oprah anyone?), being told I can’t do certain things because of my race (such as wearing alternative fashions, dying my hair certain colors, etc), that I’m “loud” and “ghetto”, or any other black stereotypes there are. Then there are the white people who paint themselves black for a day, who don’t have to face any of those hardships then go right back to their normals lives as a white person. Using my skin as a costume piece, something for fun.

While we’re at it, let’s also talk about the way black cosplayers are treated compared to white cosplayers.

Already, black cosplayers don’t even have as much freedom as their white counterparts in cosplay. Black cosplayers are labeled “ghetto X character name here”, “Black X character” ,or some stereotypical ethnic name mashed together with the character name.

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Even when they cosplay canon black and darker skinned characters, they don’t receive as much attention as their white and asian counterparts, that would be cosplaying the same character. Sometimes  even labeled a less accurate version of the character. Black cosplayers are pushed to the back and given the crumbs and the underbelly of the cosplay community. Usually facing racism and hate just for cosplaying a character they love (in a non-offensive way). While white cosplayers who paint themselves black are deemed to be just doing it for “accuracy”, or just having fun, and  tends to gain more attention and support. It makes you wonder why no black cosplayer is as popular as Yaya Hahn, or Jessica Nigri…

If all the cosplayers who’ve painted their skin a darker color has faced backlash why does it keep happening? The answer is: no one knows. It could be lack of research but there is no real answer. Some people suspect it’s just pure ignorance. Some believe that they do it as a last ditch effort to gain popularity and more views on their social media. Others say it’s just for “accuracy” of the cosplay. The problem within the problem is that not only do they do this offensive makeup, but more often than not, they also claim that they have a right to it! and that everyone who tells them they’re doing something offensive is just over reacting. Kou, the SU Garnet cosplayers, released this semi-apparently-apologetic:

I know people can exaggerate quite fast, especially on the internet. But I never experienced it myself in this kind of way. I know the black and white issue is very, very explosive. But I NEVER EVER intended to hurt anyone with this cosplay. I wanted to look like Garnet. I put most effort on the outfit. In the end, in time rush, I had problems finding fitting tights (for the arms), gloves and body paint. I think that my skin tone is not perfectly red-brown. I thought that even before this shitstorm came up (I know some of you won’t believe me, though). But I was proud of the wig and I knew that on conventions there is often no time for good photos, so I wanted to have them before. I know that many of you won’t accept this as a justification. You will find negative responses for every word I say, so I keep it short. I wanted to cosplay as a character I love. It’s Garnet from Steven Universe. I did not know the word “blackfacing” until now. But now I do.

I am sorry for every negative emotions my cosplay caused in you. I did not intend to offend anyone or be racist in any kind of way. For me, cosplay is not a way to express any political or social statements. It is a way to show how much I like an anime or cartoon character. And I would never call myself a racist. It hurts when you do. I grew up in the very tolerant cosplay community of Germany. I have friends from all over the world.

When I was in Kassel, where the convention took place, cosplayers as well as people of every kind told me that I looked cool. The children loved it. So I think that the cosplay itself is good. I was very sad to see the reactions here. So I will delete my photos. But I will not stop cosplaying, or stop cosplaying as Garnet. I will paint my skin differently, but I will paint it because it belongs to the Garnet’s design. Please stop discussing here, I will not read your comments or respond to them.  Thank you to everyone who discussed for my sake or wrote comments or notes to cheer me up.

It sounds like a nice apology right? Wrong. Read this again:

But I will not stop cosplaying, or stop cosplaying as Garnet. I will paint my skin differently, but I will paint it because it belongs to the Garnet’s design. Please stop discussing here, I will not read your comments or respond to them. You’re probably wondering what they did wrong in that response,right? What they did wrong is that they said that while they realize that painting their skin brown is offensive, that they will continue to do it. Then continued on to silence the people who are telling them that what they did is offensive, while in the sentence right under that, giving praise to those who’re telling them that they did nothing wrong.

Its pretty clear this individual doesn’t get what the issue is. But there is a way you can help! Here is what can you as a non black cosplayer do to about blackface in the cosplay community?
1
. Call it out – Calling out other white cosplayers about what they’re doing is on major part in helping eradicate it, aka, be a good ally.
2. DON’T DO IT – want to cosplay that cool brown character? Go ahead! you do you! Just don’t paint your skin brown! The character is more than just their skin color, I’m sure people will recognize you without the brown skin. If you’re looking for other cosplay ideas, just ask around.
3. Help to teach others – most of the time, white people like to dismiss brown folks as people who just love playing the race card. By helping educate other people, you hopefully make it one less “race baiting” remark we have to hear.
4. If someone calls you out on something offensive don’t attack them, try to learn about why it’s offensive, and if you’d like, ask about more information on why it’s offensive and the history behind it. Then make a sincere apology ( so not Kou’s crappy one. no, that one sucks) apologize for being offensive (remember, just because you didn’t mean to offend didn’t mean you didn’t offend people. so try to leave out “ I’m sorry you’re offended” and say more of:

“I’m sorry I did something offensive, I’ve learned a lot from people who have educated me on the topic and I’m very thankful for it. From now on, I will never darken my skin, or paint myself as another race, I encourage everyone to be sensitive to other people when making choices on how they choose to present themselves.”

Here are some cosplayers that didn’t have to paint their skin to get the point across:

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I promise, you can do this without painting your skin. Its so easy!

 

**Miss Momo loves all things cute, including J fashion, Jfashion that I’m interested in include lolita, mahou kei, larme kei, and mori girl. I am also an avid seamstress, and artist. For more updates on Miss Momo visit her Tumblr, Facebook, and instagram!**

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GmoneyRik
GmoneyRik

I emailed the admin on this website to make a complain about the moderator (founder/author):

Hello,

I wanted to take the time to point out a problem with one of your moderators. Now I'm not saying I want them banned or anything. I just want this person to be reminded of their job... keep the peace not call people stupid racist. Like I said I don't want this person to be punished because we all have our moments... Just reminded. I have attached a screen shots of the comments made by the moderator and a link to the article where the comments were made. Thank you for your time and I hope this issue can be resolved without any pain. Have a good day!
~Rik
Then I realized she was the founder and author so I sent this:

Hello again! I have this strange feeling that my complaint I just made is going to fall on deaf ears... the picture I have attached will explain why. Thank you for your time again and I will not longer be visiting your website. I will also inform all of my friends that visit this web page about your founder and the things she has to say about people's opinions. I hope the rest of your day goes well.
~Rik  

So here's the response I got from this websites admin after I told them what their founder was saying:

First of all, Valerie Complex is the founder, but she barely has time check the site because she has other things going on. Secondly, what exactly would you like for us to do about someone else's comments? You gave a problem, but didn't offer a solution at all. 

There are many moderators here. Next time you send an email offer a clear cut solution please.
Thank you,
THE AC
And here is my response to that:
Hi,I'm sorry I must be talking crazy or something because I thought I did give you a solution to the problem for the one moderator (not multiple moderators) that happens to be your founder which you clearly were quick to point out that she doesn't have time to check the site but clearly has the time to call people "idiot racist" and "stupid" for having an opinion that isn't the same as her own. But I'm confused as to how you don't understand what I'm talking about when it says this on your "About Us" section on your website: "The Anime Complexium is here and we’re looking to bring something new to the table.  This is a news and opinion site for young girls, and women who love anime, manga Kpop/Jpop, cosplay, and more! There will be a particular emphasis on diversity in our site content, and we hope that reflects throughout our readership and fandom. We pride ourselves in being an all inclusive community of anime geeks/nerds with differing opinions. We may not always agree, but hopefully we can conduct a respectful dialogue around issues of contention. Stay tuned as our site, and our team continues to grow."
Then you tell me I'm wrong for calling your founder out for statements like:
"So many idiot racist commenting I am at a loss for words" and "Then that means you and them are stupid"
When in fact as a moderator she should be as another user put it:"your only job here is remain objective and impartial to both sides of the argument regardless of your personal opinions"
So where does that leave us? Awe yes, my complaint falling on deaf ears because I'm willing to bet you are Valerie complex and you can care less what I have to say. So whoever you are you're probably going to do nothing about it even after I called you for lying about your founder that "barely has time check the site because she has other things going on". Yeah real smooth on that one! I have added my two previous emails and all three pictures I sent before that show her comments and where she was online to make them. The ball is in your court whoever are that wish to not provide a name or job you do for this website. In the future I recommend you take a PR class. Thank you for being a sweetheart and hearing me out. I wish you all the best luck in the future with website. ~Rik
P.S You can bet that I will be posting your email you sent for all the rest of the users to see. :)
It's really good see that they care about their users on this website.

GmoneyRik
GmoneyRik

Also I would like to point out that it's apparently our job as the readers to tell the admins how to do their jobs in which case if you want my advice don't post very extreme one sided articles and then post nasty comments about the readers who don't share your opinion.  Thanks!

GmoneyRik
GmoneyRik

To everybody that doesn't completely agree with this article I recommend you don't waste your time commenting on this and instead just never come back to this website again. My reasons for saying that is because the moderator that is calling everybody stupid and an idiot racists for have an opinion that is not the same as the one expressed in this article is also the founder of this website. Me being African American I personally don't agree with a lot of what was said here and I find what the article/author/founder said to be offensive AND THAT DOESN'T MAKE ME AN IDIOT RACIST OR STUPID. I will not be using this website no more due to those reasons. Good luck to everybody else that does continue to use it and I hope that one day the people involved in this will figure out that alot of us black folk don't think the same way they do. I recommend you read what the about section of this website and then read her comments. If you don't got the time to find it then that's ok I posted a picture of it for you.

SolLuceat
SolLuceat

@GmoneyRik Oh wow... I didn't realize the moderator was the founder/author of this article... Thank you for posting that picture. 

Vexy
Vexy

Sorry, but I'm not going to conform to American standards of what's acceptable.

You can paint your skin whatever colour you want and wear whatever you want in my opinion! If you are a perfectionist, you will stop at nothing to look the most like a character. And you shouldn't, because that's your prerogative.

As half a Nigerian in Europe, I will NEVER ever understand the skincolour obsession Americans have, and quite frankly I don't care. You can't expect the whole world to succumb to your demands, because there's something you don't like.

I've never met an African that would care about this, because they don't.

If you get offended by some paint on someone's face, done respectable, then maybe you're the problem.

Don't you see that trying to distinguish between skincolour is in itself creating more racism?! If you say that you can't paint yourself using a certain colour you're establishing a difference, that signals "this is different". I thought the whole goal was to show people we are all the same.

Does colour and clothes really matter to you that much?

If so, maybe you should try to think outside the box and see the issue from a different perspective.

It's not as black and white as you think.

FedericaAuditore
FedericaAuditore

Hm...I understand the point of the Author...But isn't it more offensive to cosplay a black character from a Movie/Anime/whatever and do it as a white girl? Because in that case I deny the fact that he is black and I pretend that he is white, what would be a lie.
For example Adewale from Assassin's Creed Black Flag. He is black and if I would decide to cosplay him I cannot "make him white". That would be more offensive and more rude.
When I choose to cosplay a character not to make fun of him but to show my love and respect for this character.

And please don't mix up cosplay with dressing up for halloween. That are two totally different things.

animecomplexium
animecomplexium moderator

So many idiot racist commenting I am at a loss for words

SolLuceat
SolLuceat

@animecomplexium Question. You are the "moderator" correct? Because if that true then your only job here is remain objective and impartial to both sides of the argument regardless of your personal opinions right? Just like a referee at a football game... The only thing you have done here is call people "stupid" and "idiot racist". On top of that you haven't given any justification as to why you believe that about people that are trying to express their honest opinion which I would like to point out that no one has been racist in any of these comments. That's discrimination and you're only breeding hate when you say things like that. Now I know it's your job to remain objective and impartial to both sides of the argument regardless of your personal opinions so I don't expect a reply to this but I know your a real person in the world that I hope can learn something from what I said here today. Thank you for your time and I hope the rest of your day goes well.

Vexy
Vexy

You need to step outside the box and see this "problem" from a different perspective. It's not black and white, nothing is.

Metaperspective is a key word here.

Where I come from, painting your skin would never be seen as offensive, because we don't care about skincolour the way you do in your country.

Can you fathom that people in other countries, from other cultures, don't see this issue the way you do?

Because that's an issue. Americans assume that the rest of the world think the same way you do, but we obviously don't.

In my opinion, having one colour off limits creates a separating thought processes in itself by stating its difference. If everyone is really the same, they should be treated and viewed as such.

fbbffb
fbbffb

This is stupid and pointless. If I ever want to cosplay a brown character I will and I will paint my skin darker. goodbye.

Lenatea
Lenatea

Oh my God, I didn't actually think it was possible to be that thick headed but you sure proved me wrong!

SolLuceat
SolLuceat

I'm gonna need you to start deleting all your social media accounts before the backlash starts... Thanks. So are you just going to forget that black people do white face and no F***s are given about it or is that okay because black people are making up for lost time? I think that's called a "double standard" right? What happens if someone of Asian or Hispanic descent decide they want to cosplay Afro Samurai and paint their skin brown for the cos? They're not white... So it's black and white thing I take it. I only say that because how you dropped "white" 11 times and "black" 22 times but "Asian" only once and "Hispanic" isn't mention at all in this? Seriously? You need to take your black on white issues somewhere else because I could care less about your narrow perceptive on the topic. Bee Tea dubs... this whole thing you wrote is Discrimination. Let me define that word for you. Discrimination: is treatment or consideration of, or making a distinction in favor of or against, a person or thing based on the group, class, or category to which that person or thing is perceived to belong to rather than on individual merit. [1] This includes treatment of an individual or group based on their actual or perceived membership in a certain group or social category, "in a way that is worse than the way people are usually treated". [2] It involves the group's initial reaction or interaction going on to influence the individual's actual behavior towards the group leader or the group, restricting members of one group from opportunities or privileges that are available to another group, leading to the exclusion of the individual or entities based on logical or irrational decision making. This is to include but not limited to age, caste, disability, employment, language, nationality, race/ethnicity, region/beliefs, sex/gender/gender identity/orientation... So yeah with that being said would it be okay for a cosplayer to go whiteface? Well according to your article yes as long as, in your own words, you're not "painting your skin darker, or yellow for that matter". Yeah cosplayers change their skin color for accuracy... not to make racist fun of another race and if you and other people that think like you on the topic could see cosplayers intentions of accuracy for what it is this wouldn't even be an issue. So please stop making it an color issue... we are all humans on the inside and that's all that matters. Also that girl was from Germany... It would be one thing to pick on her if she is from America but she's from Germany so it's completely understandable she doesn't know what blackface is. So give her a break and be more understanding of other countries not knowing about our culture just like you would expect them to do for you. Side note: People dressing up as Jay-Z and Beyonce for Halloween has nothing to do with cosplay... Just saying.

SolLuceat
SolLuceat

This is a nice picture of you in whiteface btw...

Lenatea
Lenatea

Uhh. .. roasted?

Really? Has there actually been a whole era of grown adult black people painting their faces white and having a laugh on behalf of white people, whom they had been enslaving for decades?

Your lack of social understanding is astonishing. Truly astonishing.

A white person putting on a mud mask and a black person putting on a white colored face mask do have one thing in common, though: good skincare routines.

SolLuceat
SolLuceat

@Lenatea Do you live in another reality? Dave Chappelle, Shawn and Marlon Wayans, Eddie Murphy... the list continues... are people that have done white face for a laugh and yes you are right they didn't enslave white people for decades. But! That doesn't mean two wrongs make a right. The author of this piece is only pushing one side of the story and is just as wrong as she define black face in cosplay do to that. Like I said before cosplayers change their skin tone for accuracy they are not doing black, white, yellow, red or green face and the only way it could be racist or insensitive is if they are really trying to be racist or insensitive. As for the people that did black, white, yellow, red or green face back in the day with the intent to be racist or insensitive for a good laugh... Yes they are A**holes and we can all agree on that. Now, Your lack of social understanding of cosplayers is astonishing. Truly astonishing. 

Lenatea
Lenatea

Your argument is still invalid, black artists and actors doing whiteface are doing it BECAUSE OF THE HISTORY. They're TAKING THEIR DAMN HISTORY BACK. Presenting it to white people in a historical sense in order to show how incredibly ridiculous it is to paint ones face another race for a laugh. The fact that you are using this to front your "racism against white people exist too so painting myself the color of a minority race or a historically tormented race is perfectly okay" and even trying to use my own words against me as if that made your point more valid is to me laughable. Sorry. I will not budge on this. It's history and it's real and it's offensive to a person's sensibility to suggest it isn't just because you're not offended by it.

SolLuceat
SolLuceat

@Lenatea I'm confused... Maybe you can help me with this... At what point did I say "racism against white people exist too so painting myself the color of a minority race or a historically tormented race is perfectly okay"? You quoted me on that correct? No... What I did say was "That doesn't mean two wrongs make a right" so your statement "They're TAKING THEIR DAMN HISTORY BACK." is actually invalid (by the way that's how you quote someone) and in case you do want to argue that it is valid statement I want you to keep in mind that you would be saying that black people that do white face are hypocrites based on your definition of why they are doing it in the first place... Just saying. Also I'm not asking you to budge on this topic. I'm glad you have an opinion on it and if you don't want  to change your opinion I'm okay with that to. And your right I'm not offended when people change their skin tone for cosplay as long as they're externalizing their favorite roll models/heroes and shouldn't we encourage that kind of behavior as long as they are not objectifying anybody or being racist or insensitive? I know, I know, you don't agree with me on that but I will tell you what does offend me that you will probably agree with me on. I get offended when people still define themselves by the color of their skin... or when they define themselves by age, caste, disability, employment, language, nationality, race/ethnicity, region/beliefs, sex/gender/gender identity/orientation for that mater. We were all human first and as such we should treat/hold our fellow humans with the up most respect regardless of the said traits I mention before that we develop through out our life's. If you could do that then seeing someone change their skin tone to externalize their favorite roll models/heroes won't offend you too.

CarolineSteinholmSkogeng
CarolineSteinholmSkogeng

I feel like there is so much wrong in this world... and this post. 
 Let me start by saying yes, blackface is wrong, you can not just take on bacl pain and big red lips and make fun of  black people. that is wrong. But dont we want to promote black people? like... make then NOT oppressed? when I cosplay, I have painted my skin whiter then my own, I have made myself have another bone structure. and if a black character, like the one in walking dead is popular (I dont like the show enough to remember her name) and people want to cosplay her... she should have brown skin... we should promote positive things about what have been percived as negative... like before... it was a negative thing that a white and black person got married, now nobody blinks and eye. Before black people had to go to diffrent schools and stores.. now you can (there is still following arond and stuff... but we should fight that too... bu to be fair.. my black friends have never had that... where I live, that does not happen... it is mostly in america, I live in norway) 
about black face.... we should stop it if they are doing it in a racist way... like.. they go around pretending to be stupid while wearing it... also nobody is BLACK.. there are diffrent shades of brown... it can be dark dark dark brown.. but not coal black. But if they only paint for a character.. and they act liek themselfs or that character.. aka not racist or anything, not acting dumb, or ghetto(unless its accuate for the character, wich it not the case for the walking dead chick), we can remove the racist part of it, we can make it a thing that will become just a costume.. not a race thing. 
I know I am just a little white girl talking, but I grew up bullied and scared alot... I know how it feels to be put down no matter what do and dont do... I might not know how it is to be black... but I dont have to... I hate racism and general ignorance.... but I want to help fix it... and in the world we are trying to create.. is a world where doing a costume is not racist, because nobody around the person in the makeup thinks its negative to be black... because its not negative, its just the colour of the skin, the rest is the same.


Blackface Is Racist
Blackface Is Racist

@CarolineSteinholmSkogeng Promote black people? If you want to "promote" black pople why dont you LISTEN and stop over shouting over them.

black people already experienced being objects and accessories and painting your skin to just take it off IS OBJECTIFYING. With white faing there is NO HISTORY OF THIS.


You are an insult to society because what you are doing is trying to pick every excuse in the book t over look the people you "care for" just to be accurate. 

You are greedy, selfish and a liar because if you truly wanted to promote black people youd feature them on your social media, invite them to your groups and appreciate their words and hurt when they say black face no matter what the explination hurts them. NOT BUY IGNORING THEM.

so stop being fake and just say you want to blackface to gain not to celebrate.

CarolineSteinholmSkogeng
CarolineSteinholmSkogeng

@Blackface Is Racist  @CarolineSteinholmSkogeng oh wow, you really did not read my comment xD ok, lets do this step by step. I was not shouting over anyone, its  caleld a discussion, I am not "YOU ARE WRONG BECAUSE YOU ARE BLACK" ... like you are to me right now. 
ok, and the objectifying part... how am I objectifying anybody... if I cosplay as a black person.. but I am doing a white version, that would be making that character white.... isnt that more insulting?

I am also not an actor, I am not a producer, I am not a person that direct or cast people in films.. I can not place black people in movies, but I would love it if media did... one of my favorite characters ever is Morgan from criminal minds, he is black.. I dont love him because of skin colour, but beceause he is smart, strong and is a great and well written character.  The way we make Racism go away is by not making colour of the skin an issue... if I wanted to cosplay morgan, I would put in fake muscles, take on a fake bald head.. also become tanner because he is black... making that character white when I cosplay him would be worse, dont you agree?

when I pick character to cosplay, I do it because I love the character, not to make fun of it.. so much time I spend and so much money I spend on my cosplays.. I would not just do for a cheap racial joke....  

SolLuceat
SolLuceat

@Blackface Is Racist Whoa you need to pump the breaks! Just breath... alright are you good now? First off you need to clam down. Second It's not really fair to say "You are greedy, selfish and a liar" to @CarolineSteinholmSkogeng based on one comment she left. That's just being hateful because someone has an opinion that isn't eye to eye with yours. Now we can all agree that black, white, yellow, red or green face is wrong but there is a difference between someone doing black, white, yellow, red or green face and a cosplayer changing the tone of their skin for accuracy. Cosplayer aren't objectifying anybody or being racist or insensitive... If anything they're externalizing their favorite roll models/heroes and shouldn't we encourage that kind of behavior as long as they are not objectifying anybody or being racist or insensitive? Now I know you're going to say no to that but respect works two ways... How do you expect anyone to respect your opinion if you are not going to do the same? And I ask that question to anyone here before they go off the rails and ripping someone a new one.

;)

SolLuceat
SolLuceat

@animecomplexium Question. You are the "moderator" correct? Because if that true then your only job here is remain objective and impartial to both sides of the argument regardless of your personal opinions right? Just like a referee at a football game... The only thing you have done here is call people "stupid" and "idiot racist". On top of that you haven't given any justification as to why you believe that about people that are trying to express their honest opinion which I would like to point out that no one has been racist in any of these comments. That's discrimination and you're only breeding hate when you say things like that. Now I know it's your job to remain objective and impartial to both sides of the argument regardless of your personal opinions so I don't expect a reply to this but I know your a real person in the world that I hope can learn something from what I said here today. Thank you for your time and I hope the rest of your day goes well.

CarolineSteinholmSkogeng
CarolineSteinholmSkogeng

@Blackface Is Racist  @CarolineSteinholmSkogeng Also. what you are doing is alienating others... the way we defeat hate is by standing together....
A black girl is being targeted, a white girl stands up for her.... she yells at the white girl because "she is white and dont know the pain". you are alienating that white girl.. and she will not stand up for black people anymore... 
Just like Women are also oppressed.. genreally.... and some women are screaming "all men are rapists"... wich is not true.. but they are alienating men from women, creating more hate.... 

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@animecomplexium xD wow. you clearly are the wisest here, calling everybody stupid. True sign of wisedom right there.

Vexy
Vexy

Exuce me @BlackFaceIsRacist, I'm an actual dark skinned Norwegian and this isn't far fetched from the thought processes we hold in this country.

We hold a completely different view on skincolour and racism, because we have never been put up against each other like you have in the states.

To us, painting ones skin has nothing to do with ones skincolour or thoughts of other people.

In this country we care about people, not their skin. For example, there is no "black community", we have local communities, because skincolour shouldn't define your "people" or your culture.

You need to get your head out of your box and realise that a lot in this world is relative, especially people's opinions and thoughts.

Every day I see Americans rant about people where they base their accusations on their skincolour, may it be Caucasians, Hispanics, Asians, it doesn't matter, it's all bad. But you don't see that, all you see is the past, and it's a past the rest of the world doesn't hold.

What offends you, isn't automatically offensive everywhere, but you still think it is.

There is a profound problem with racism in your country, but it goes for everyone there, regardless of skincolour.

CarolineSteinholmSkogeng
CarolineSteinholmSkogeng

@Vexy yes, i very badly tried to explain it....  also since I feel like that in these types of discussions I feel like i would not be taken seriously even if I have good points. 
We dont have "black" and "white" communities... we have communities... but not based on skin.. but more if style.. like the outcasts tend to group together and 'soss' tends to group together.... (soss is like a ... posh person?).  America is not the whole world... what america sees as offensive is diffrent then here... I have never looked at a person with dark skin and thought they were worth lesser than me... or diffrent in any way.... ifc they can be diffrent if they grew up diffrent, we can have diffrent morals and styles... intrests and viewpoints.. but the skincolour does not decide that for you. 

But I guess this person is an american, and they have diffrent problems there than here... and because of the sentitive back ground, they thend to over analyze stuff... like a bully victim (of any skincolor) would over analyze a crass comment from a friend.... I was teased alot about my looks, I got eating disorders and I kept hiding, when I got out again... still... if someone points out a flaw... a crooked tooth, or that my belly is not completely flat.... I feel pure dread, even if they didnt mean it like that... they might just say "you should eat more healthy" and I go right back to dread.... and if he/she was teased about skincolour, its the same thing.. they feel like they are being made fun of, when really its just creating a character the way it is... if I make that character white, it would be even more damaging.. removing a part of that character.. like... "he is great... but let us remove the darkness of his skin".... that would be worse, right?

But being rude and mean to white people will not create a solution, I know the revenge thought process, I have been there with my looks and people mean to me... but one has to realize that not all white people are the same either... if a dark skinned person sais "all white people are the same" its the same as a white person saying "all black people are the same"... or a woman sais "all men are the same" ... we are all diffrent.... we all have backstories and feelings... cultures and all.